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The Deal


The CSX purchase could run as many as 54 mile-long daily freight trains through charming communities in Florida’s interior, including Plant City, Dade City and Lakeland.


Rail Deal Carries 100-Year Consequence

CSX Railroad runs two major freight lines south into Florida. The A Line runs through Jacksonville, Deland, Sanford, Orlando and Haines City. The S line runs further inland, through Starke, Ocala, Wildwood, Dade City, Plant City and Lakeland. CSX wants to sell Florida 61.5 miles of the A Line around Orlando, allowing Central Florida to create the spine of a commuter-rail line.

The project will cost a minimum of $1.2 billion, though many costs remain unaccounted for. With $650 million budgeted for the rail purchase, Florida will pay the highest price ever for railroad tracks.

Even still, the deal allows CSX to retain exclusive use of the tracks for five hours at night and share them seven hours during the day.

In other words, for 12 hours of exclusive use, the state will buy and operate the tracks, double -track the Orlando route, build CSX a new hub in Winter Haven, rebuild its tracks in areas across the state, pay its liability insurance premiums and cover nearly all the damages from any accidents it causes. And that’s not all.

To re-route freight trains off the A-line, taxpayers will pay to transform the S line into a freight super-railway. CSX wants the capacity to send 54 trains a day along this second line – through Central Florida’s smaller cities and towns, which never had a say in the matter.

That’s right. As you’ll learn elsewhere on this Web site, this mega-deal was negotiated behind closed doors between railroad executives and former-Gov. Jeb Bush’s staff. Negatively affected communities knew nothing about the negotiations until Bush announced the deal was done.

In Lakeland, the tracks bisect a charming and newly redeveloped downtown. They also separate emergency medical providers from the nearest hospital. Already, when one of 16 daily trains breaks down – not an infrequent occurrence – downtown pedestrians must climb between train cars to cross the street.


To cross the street in downtown Lakeland, citizens sometimes must climb over stalled CSX trains.

CSX supporters say the railroad only plans to increase - from 16 to 20 - the number of daily freight trains running through Lakeland. But existing track has the capacity to handle 27 daily trains. So why are taxpayers being asked to spend nearly $200 million to build capacity for 54 daily trains?
The 2009 Florida Legislature faces a hundred-year decision, similar to the 1950s, when Congress created the interstate highway system and forever divided neighborhoods whose voices weren't considered.

Lawmakers should remember that people want government to tighten its belt, not grow in size by buying and running a railroad. And remember, this deal was negotiated more than four years ago, before the economic earthquake.

Floridians are in this together. And citizens want leaders to address congestion - and transportation strategies - in meaningful ways.

Only by working together can we find the Right Track For Florida.
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#1 Crummy Deal For Taxpayers

Submitted by visitor on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 07:56.
No matter how you look at this deal it's a crummy deal for taxpayers. I can't believe that conservative people of this state are behind this and pushing this deal. It should be scrapped and completely rewritten, without the cast of characters already involved.
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#2 It Starts Here

Submitted by visitor on Thu, 02/05/2009 - 12:24.
$300,000 already wasted just naming the thing and producing a logo. Heaven knows we can't do anything without a logo. It's not even out of the chute yet and is already proving how we can waste taxpayer money. Absolutely shameful.
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#3 $300,000 on the name "Sun

Submitted by visitor on Mon, 02/09/2009 - 20:31.
$300,000 on the name "Sun Rail" and a logo of a train??? That's absurd.
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#4 Sad, But True

Submitted by visitor on Tue, 02/10/2009 - 08:27.
I haven't been able to figure out who dished up the dough, but I'll guess it was the FDOT. This is a prime example of how government overpays for everything they get. The taxpayer invests a dollar and gets a dime in return. I was surprised that anyone would even report this shameful expense. The "artist" reported he worked really hard for a couple of months producing this cartoon. If they had asked, I would have done the whole deal for fifty bucks and would have thought I got over on them. That's my problem though. I just think too small.
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#5 logo

Submitted by visitor on Tue, 02/24/2009 - 10:23.
Really? $300,000. wow. I know people who would have done a better job for $500. really!
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#6 Another Point of View

Submitted by visitor on Thu, 02/05/2009 - 19:12.
Your photo and caption of people navigating through a train stalled by a broken-down engine is indicative of your biased point of view. "citizens must sometimes climb over ..." That particular instance happened once more than a year ago and could happen in any community where trains operate. Not a regular occurrence by any stretch of the imagination. Probably about as much of a regular occurrence as traffic rerouting due to a Super Bowl, um, like say Tampa. I will say your journalistic integrity at least matches that of the Tampa Tribune and LakelandLoco (sic).
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#7 Another Point of View---Mine

Submitted by visitor on Fri, 02/06/2009 - 08:01.
This situation has actually happened a couple times in downtown Lakeland that I know of because I was there. Isn't it ironic that the day this photo was taken, CSX had our County Commissioners in Georgia, woeing them with promises of great things to come and assuring them that all was well and Lakeland would be taken care of. God does have a since of humor.
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#8 You're not from around here

Submitted by visitor on Thu, 02/05/2009 - 22:37.
What is your idea of regular occurrence? Would 4-5 times a year for periods of over 30 minutes count?
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#9 Public Safety at risk

Submitted by visitor on Thu, 02/05/2009 - 22:44.
It's really sad to see all the ambulances stopped on the south side of the tracks in Lakeland on their way to the hospital.....so close and yet so far
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#10 Public Safety at risk

Submitted by visitor on Thu, 02/05/2009 - 22:46.
It's really sad to see all the ambulances stopped on the south side of the tracks in Lakeland on their way to the hospital.....so close and yet so far
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#11 JJ Jones

Submitted by visitor on Sun, 02/08/2009 - 08:56.
Where is Lakeland and why should I care about its downtown district?
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#12 Apathy

Submitted by visitor on Sun, 02/08/2009 - 09:58.
Apathetic, uninformed people are exactly what the government and business need to get their wasteful partnerships in place. Power and money breed corruption and it's the taxpayer that pays the bill.
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#13 You're so right. So wake up

Submitted by visitor on Sun, 02/08/2009 - 13:08.
You're so right. So wake up people. Let's start letting our elected officials know we are watching. This complete waste of money is only the beginning. How about the U.S. Sugar Bailout? Together that's like $3 BILLION!!!
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#14 Lakeland is in Polk County

Submitted by visitor on Sun, 02/08/2009 - 13:12.
Lakeland is in Polk County between Tampa and Orlando and is the heart of the I-4 corridor. You should care because we would care if your quality of life was being threatened by our selfish actions using taxpayer dollars. Hey we're all in this together. Why can't we be good neighbors?
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#15 Response to JJ Jones

Submitted by visitor on Sun, 02/08/2009 - 15:49.
You seriously don't know where Lakeland is? Or are you just trying to be insulting? Either way, you're an idiot.
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#16 JJ Jones

Submitted by visitor on Mon, 02/09/2009 - 20:27.
It could be your downtown next buddy
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#17 Corporate Subsidies

Submitted by visitor on Mon, 02/09/2009 - 20:48.
CSX wants $641 million of our tax dollars to improve their tracks, build overpasses and start a new railyard. U.S. Sugar wants a $1.3 billion bailout from their legal and financial troubles with the ad valorem taxes of South Florida residents. What's next....a new warehouse for Publix or Walmart? How about we build a new ride at Disney? Perhaps we should renovate Mariott's hotels. What's in it for the taxpayers, many of whom have lost their jobs?
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#18 Entertainment Business

Submitted by visitor on Tue, 02/10/2009 - 08:39.
Part of the problem is that Buddy Dyer envisions himself as an entertainment mogul. He has a billion dollars worth of enternmaint projects in the works right now. Unfortunately, two of them are stalled for lack of funds because the really expensive one is sucking up all the money. He sees the commuter rail as a "ride" that will attract tourists to his venues.
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#19 This is Scary

Submitted by visitor on Thu, 02/12/2009 - 00:10.
myregion.org These people are really good at putting out their propoganda. This is a group of business and civic leaders that I think are being funded by FDOT. They are the group that was paid $300,000 to name the Sunrail and to produce the logo. Obviously there had to be some change left over. They are also the group that paid for 170 people from Central Florida to go to Charlotte N.C to take a ride on their commuter train. I was wondering why the heck that trip cost $50,000. I didn't realize so many people went. Channel 9 reported that a group of businessmen paid for that trip, but they didn't mention that those businessmen are funded with public money. Here's a new twist on life. Government is now paying lobbyists to hoodwink the public into thinking they are getting a good deal on a bad investment. This thing is really starting to stink. Just how much corruption is in this deal?
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#20 Where is downtown Lakeland?

Submitted by visitor on Thu, 02/12/2009 - 13:56.
The visitor who wondered about downtown Lakeland and why it should matter is correct. It sounds like the gentleman doesn't live around here. If that is so, here are some things he should know. Lakeland has 5 railroad overpasses and underpasses in the downtown area. If, for instance, you are coming into Lakeland from any direction to attend, say, a Broadway play at the Lakeland Center, you would not have to cross ANY railroad tracks. You would either go over them or under them. The only place in downtown Lakeland that is affected by both passenger and freight train traffic is a small, two-block area. This area, however, is bounded by Lakeland's very powerful and extremely influential Antiques District. They are very wealthy. That's how you're able to see websites such as this one and another CSX-site, Lakeland Local. If there is a train in the Antiques District, motorists can either go two blocks to the east or one block to the west and avoid the train. Ambulances are not affected because they go over the tracks by using one of the overpasses downtown. Also, there is yet another overpass under construction downtown. That would bring the number of railroad overpasses and underpasses in downtown Lakeland to six. Each side of this issue uses their own set of numbers to bolster their point of view. But, it really boils down to protecting a two-block area of downtown Lakeland versus building commuter rail over a 61-mile stretch in one of the country's largest metropolitan areas.
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#21 Very Powerful Antique Dealers????

Submitted by visitor on Thu, 02/12/2009 - 21:25.
That is hysterical. Thanks for the laugh. On a serious note-how dare you state as fact that ambulances are not affected. Which north/south streets are you claiming have overpasses? Obviously you are not from around here either.
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#22 First off, I said UNDERPASSES

Submitted by visitor on Fri, 02/13/2009 - 10:59.
First off, I said UNDERPASSES and overpasses. I've lived here since 1980. I can only assume by your reply that you don't drive in Lakeland that much. There is an overpass on the first phase of the In-town Bypass. A second overpass is under construction on the second and final phase of the In-town Bypass. There are underpasses on Sikes Boulevard near The Ledger, Lake Parker Avenue as well as Gary Road and Five Points although the latter two are a little further away from downtown. Lakeland Regional Medical Center is the area's only Level One Trauma Center. Those patients are flown in. If an ambulance is transporting a patient from the southside, they take the In-town Bypass. If they're coming from say, the southwest, they'll take the new portion of the In-town bypass. Also, ambulance drivers are aware of all types of traffic concerns: accidents ahead, passenger trains as well as freight trains. They're well-trained and take the appropriate action. I've never heard of a patient being harmed as a result of being delayed by an accident ahead or train delay while being transported.
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#23 Ambulances

Submitted by visitor on Fri, 02/13/2009 - 11:34.
In-town bypass runs east-west. Also, important to note that the second phase of the in-town bypass was deferred off work program in 2005 so money could be shifted to s-line freight improvements for CSX (how ironic - more freight and FDOT stops plans to build bypass to help traffic avoid the trains). Thanks to Senator Dockery, the project was put back in work program with a short delay and with modifications to make project less costly. Ambulances (with their lights on and sirens blaring) do indeed get stuck at the tracks on Florida Avenue near Main Street on a regular basis. Please quit your spin, it is very insensitive.
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#24 Money shift allegations not true

Submitted by visitor on Fri, 02/13/2009 - 14:09.
Last time I was on the bypass, I got on at Bartow Highway and got off at Massachussetts. That, my friend, is going north. Money for the second phase of the bypass was NOT shifted to making improvements on CSX tracks. The project was removed from FDOT's five year plan because of budget restraints and a change in their distribution formula that was mandated by the state legislature. As for your allegations regarding ambulances being stuck, please provide an example.
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#25 Very Powerful Antique Dealers...giggle....giggle

Submitted by visitor on Fri, 02/13/2009 - 19:13.
Ok, I can hardly type because of the giggles at the thought of that comment. Oh, sure if you want to think there is an antiques godfather in Downtown Lakeland that gets what he wants then, ok. But you've watched way too much TV. You are correct about the overpasses and underpasses. And I want everyone who is making those arguments about ambulances and traffic back ups to stop. Because A: Nobody cares about Lakeland. and B: Nobody cares about Lakeland. and C: ( and this is the really important one) NOBODY CARES ABOUT LAKELAND. But the BEAUTY of this project is that, though it does harm one part of the state for the perceived benefits to another without consulting any of the negatively affected cities, there are so many more reasons why is stinks at every level, that one really does not even need to make the Lakeland argument at all to point out why the deal is crappy. So, fine because you amuse me, I'll call off "teacup tommy" and "skeleton key Karl" from the cedar chest mafia for now. But watch out. One may find a horse head in one's armoir. Clearly I am kidding. I would never ruin a fine antique with a sticky horse head.
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#26 I guess that means you can't

Submitted by visitor on Sat, 02/14/2009 - 09:24.
I guess that means you can't provide an example of someone's life taking a turn for the worse because they were in an ambulance that was stuck at a railroad crossing in downtown Lakeland.
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